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Unions voice concerns over courthouse roof job
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<p>Wayne Allen| Daily Times</p><p>A portion of the Scioto County Courthouse roof that has been damaged. A plastic sheet has been put in place to keep the heat inside the building.</p>

Wayne Allen| Daily Times

A portion of the Scioto County Courthouse roof that has been damaged. A plastic sheet has been put in place to keep the heat inside the building.

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Wayne Allen

PDT Staff Writer

Local unions have expressed their concerns over the project to replace the roof on the county courthouse. Their concerns include the fact that project was not put out to bid and the quality of the work.

Earlier this week, the Scioto County Commissioners met in special session and passed a resolution authorizing the expenditure of $99,990 for the replacement of the roof on the courthouse.

The contract to do the work was awarded to Five Star Commercial Roofing, headquartered out of Hartford City, Ind.

“I’m concerned they are going to get a second-class roof on a project that needs to have a first-class roof,” said Fred Gee, Market Development Representative for the United Union of Roofers, Waterproofers and Allied Workers of Washington D.C. “I don’t know what kind of background check they (the commissioners) did on the company, but I found material that shows several OHSA (Occupational Safety and Health Administration) violations in a half an hour on the Internet.”

Mark Johnson, Assistant to the Business Manager of the Tri-State Building and Construction Trades Council voiced similar concerns.

“If this was on some warehouse or a secondary building that we (Scioto County) needed a quick roof on, maybe this system would be fine,” Johnson said. “But the Scioto County Courthouse is the crown jewel of the county and deserves a first class roof. If it’s been leaking for so long why do we wait until the last minute and declare it an emergency so not to put it out to public bid?”

Under Ohio law, if a project is declared an emergency and costs less than $100,000 it does not have to go out for public bid.

Johnson said no engineer or architect was consulted on the project.

“No engineer or architect looked at the roof or anything. We’re just going to come in here and do a quick job in two weeks and get out of here and hope it (the roof) lasts for 20 years. I don’t know if it will last 20 years or not. I’ve been told by others it may last two years and you’ll be chasing leaks for the next 18 years,” Johnson said.

Johnson and Gee said they are hoping the commissioners will reconsider the job.

“An engineer should have the stamp of approval on a project like this. There should be checks and balances on the system, not just roll the dice with $100,000 of tax payer money and hope that it’s going to be OK,” Johnson said.

Mike Crabtree, Chairman of the Scioto County Commissioners said the county had no choice but to treat this project as an emergency.

“Anything that’s an emergency you can do without going through the bid process. The roof obviously is an emergency so, we had to have three estimates and something had to be less than $100,000 and we had a bid less than $100,000. The only other option we had was to maybe, put tarps over the courthouse roof,” Crabtree said. “We have done the very best we could with the options we had available.”

Crabtree said this measure was taken so the county could get a roof that will last 20 years and stop the leaks.

He said Five Star Commercial Roofing has calling him on and off for the last year about the possibility of getting the job.

“I’m not going to feud with the unions about this, there is nothing here for them to argue about. If there is any issue with OHSA, the man doing the work will have to deal with that. He’s going to have to deal with his own safety issues. We made it clear to him we wanted them to use prevailing wage labor,” Crabtree said. “Under the circumstances and with the price we got, this was the only option we had.”

Crabtree said Five Star Commercial Roofing came in with a bid of $175,000, three years ago.

“I invited them to come look at the roof and see what they can do,” Crabtree said. “They came down and we (Crabtree and Commissioner Doug Coleman) were at an ethics conference so, Skip (Riffe, Commissioner) met with those folks. They came back with a bid that was a little bit over a $100,000.”

He said they called to see what the county was going to do.

“I explained to him that we were going to have to go through the bidding process for anything over $100,000 and he then said we might be able to do a little bit better than that, but it had to be cleared with the owner of the company.”

Crabtree said Five Star Commercial Roofing then came back with a bid of less than $100,000, if they could get a commitment from the county before the end of February.

“We had zero options. Otherwise we would have had to have gone through a bidding process and pay $180,000 or $150,000 to get the roof put on there and do what we had to do. Along with that, there would have been a lot of engineering work that needed to be done and there was no money to do that,” Crabtree said.

He said the only other option the county had was to let the roof leak for another year or two while they saved up the money.

“I felt like we are getting the best bang for our buck and all three commissioners were in favor of doing this. We worked hard to get something worked out were we could do this project with the money we had and to get it done in a timely manner,” Crabtree said. “As far as I’m concerned this is not a topic for debate and I’m not going to get into any war of words with the unions over this. I know they (unions) have their opinions, but the reality is that Scioto County is not loaded with money right now.”

He said crews from Five Star Commercial Roofing are expected to get started on the project on Monday.

Wayne Allen may be reached at 740-353-3101, ext. 228, or tallen@civitasmedia.com



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citizen48
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February 27, 2013
I really hope this is not what we have to expect from the new commissioner. Unethical behavior like, "Courthouse-gate".
yojoe
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February 23, 2013
Do they not get government and the law in Scioto County? Then again, it seems like they do, all those short cuts they made to get there on this one. They just don't get professionalism and quality work, and efficient use of tax payers money, bet they don't spend their personal money that way, maybe the city leaders do with all those personal bankruptcies.

How do you think the city and the county got into this multiple years of millions and millions in DEFICIT's? HELLO.........

They are transparent at the county and forth coming hiding nothing but they don't get the quality of job they will be getting, they don't get that you get what you pay for. And can't they float bonds, to get the money, Dah.

Have you seen in the men's restroom on the 1st. Floor and how that has been juror rig with the Rub Goldberg work over the years, it's shameful. One hates to toilet there.

Keystone Kops?

There heart may be in the right place, it's just their mind and values that needs work.

What???
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February 23, 2013
I would like to add that, I believe there should be funds available for this project through the National Register for Historic places. Not positive, but has this possibility been checked out?
What???
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February 23, 2013
What will they do next? A "special session" Really? I think this project was flown in under the radar for a reason. What connection does an Indiana contractor have with OUR courthouse?

I don't see why this leak suddenly became an emergency. It's not new. Maybe the commissioners should consider local contractors who use local labor. Maybe ,if some locals had some work, Scioto County wouldn't be so poor.

Seems sneaky and underhanded to me. If there are engineering issues, it Would be wise to address them BEFORE construction. NOT cover them up.

Indiana will be bringing their own labor with them.Political and economic suicide, guys!

What ARE you thinking? What are you getting out of this?I know what the people of Scioto County are getting....The shaft!

The timing of this article is interesting too. Starting on Moday? Doesn't give anybody time to react.

HEY,Scioto county, IT'S NOW OR NEVER. SPEAK UP.

Or let's all show up for work at the courthouse on Monday morning. 7AM is a normal start time for construction jobs. Stand up for ourselves.

xcitizen
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February 25, 2013
Maybe if the locals wanted to work they wouldn't be so poor.

Don't blame political decisions on the fact that they have to go out of town to find someone not on Heroin or that will show up for work.

In addition involving the unions would be a good way to get a $100,000 roof for about $250,000. Sounds to me with three bids and the lowest taking even less to meet the rules that Scioto County is getting a good deal. Maybe the local guys shouldn't have gouged their local goverment.

Ohh and "YoJoe" once again you are an idiot and really need to work on completing a thought or learning how to express your emotion.
yojoe
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February 25, 2013
If you would have any clue about the municipal bidding process in America, you would know that lob-sided bids are re-bid again, all you can do is be a shill and join in on adhominemism cause you got no substance. You complete thoughts but they are totally wrong or throwed off and corrupt or all of the above, etc. You can't handle complex sentences and probably Twitter.

If you'd check the last time or two that city garbage collection was bid, it should have been rebid for the lob-sided bids that existed, plus a municipality can use one of their considerations, "local employment" but you just come on here like you are one of those lowlife know it all's school yard bullies, your M. O, and agenda, not for the taxpayers of Scioto County, like you sling the crap on others, Toe Doe.

You are like peeperkorn or one of those other wing nuts fronting for the status quo, shill, stooge.

What???
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March 02, 2013
hey,xcitizen,

I don't believe addicts have anything to do with this. I'm sure they don't read the paper or want to be anywhere near the courthouse. I was refering to any unemployed citizens who could use alittle income to buy groceries or pay some bills.

I also didn't mention any unions,even though I am a union electrician.That is not the point.

I will probably never find an answer to how an Indiana contractor would know about the Scioto County courthouse roof.

As for politicians, they usually get a bad reputation by making bad decisions,or by getting some kind of kickbacks from someone . I'm not saying anything like that has actually happened here,but it is POSSIBLE. It happens everyday in our greedy,corrupt country.

If it were possible,it would truly be a great thing to know the exact truth about everything that goes on. That will never happen in this dishonest,sneaky,ugly world we live in.

Wishing the world were a better place.

Barwesful
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February 23, 2013
The unions do not have a word to say about this. Back in the late 70's i was working for a Union HVAC contractor and a LOCAL UNION HALL on 8th Street used a NON UNION Contractor for their new HVAC System.. Enough Said
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