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Unlikely witness’ testimony sways Holsinger case
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FRANK LEWIS

PDT Staff Writer

Editor’s Note: Due to the sensitive nature of the story, the identities and ages of some specific key witnesses are being withheld from publication.

Seldom has a case with so few disputed facts from the parties involved, sparked such controversy.

The details of the Steven Holsinger shooting, based on several investigative documents, witness depositions and sheriff’s department reports, are that on the evening of July 12, Robert and Tyler Staker arrived at the home of Steven and Jennifer Holsinger to repossess a lawn mower. Over the course of 90 minutes to two hours, the Stakers rapped on the doors and windows of the Holsinger home asking for someone to come out and remove the lawn mower from an adjacent garage and turn it over to the Stakers’ possession. After such time, Steven Holsinger rushed out of the home’s doorway carrying a gun and confronted the Stakers. It is during the confrontation that Tyler Staker pulled his gun and shot and killed Holsinger.

Following that evening and over the course of a nine-week investigation of the shooting, the case and community was riddled with protests, wild speculation, rumors and outright falsehoods.

However, last week, the Daily Times exclusively reviewed previously unreported information that revealed there was a single eyewitness who observed the entire confrontation, including the shooting, and it was this eyewitness’ testimony that helped seal the Scioto County grand jury’s decision against indicting Tyler Staker of any criminal charges related to the shooting.

This eyewitness is, by all appearances, completely unrelated and independent of both the Stakers and the Holsingers. The eyewitness is the only person who may be deemed unbiased from all parties involved in the shooting.

Perhaps surprisingly, the eyewitness is old enough to be judged credible, but young enough to be called a child.

Bringing judicial closure to the case, a neighbor boy delivered crucial and convincing direct eyewitness testimony in a manner that was calm, quiet, concise and devoid of emotion unlike the ongoing reactions of adults within the community over a case fueled by unrestrained raw emotion.

Scioto County Prosecutor Mark Kuhn was asked if he felt the testimony of the boy was crucial to the case.

“Absolutely,” Kuhn said. “You watch his statement and it’s compelling. It’s a compelling statement. You’ve got to put it in the context of a kid at a traumatic event, dark conditions, and bad lighting conditions, obstacles there in the driveway. But, it’s a compelling statement especially when you put that in light of what does everyone else say? What does Mrs. Holsinger say? What are the Stakers saying? What is the boy’s mother saying? His older brother? When you put it in the context of the other neighbors who came and told them they weren’t home - when you put it all in context it fits in with the other testimonies. I think that’s why it’s compelling.”

The child neighbor of Steve Holsinger testified that he saw everything that happened on the night in which Tyler Staker reportedly shot Holsinger on his property.

The boy testified before a Scioto County grand jury looking into the case, as did the boy’s mother, and after 6 1/2 hours of looking at that case the grand jury declined to hand down any indictment against Staker.

In Ohio, a grand jury must have at least seven out of the nine anonymous members endorse an indictment in order for the case the move forward.

The boy and his mother told authorities that the boy was in the yard playing when the incident occurred. In a deposition taken by Scioto County Sheriff’s Detective Jodi Conkel, the boy told what he saw develop after the Stakers arrived at the Holsinger residence at 9550 Old Gallia Pike in Wheelersburg. According to all witnesses, the Stakers had been knocking on the door on and off for hours before the incident occurred.

“Steve got tired and he ran outside with a gun,” the boy said.

Conkel asked him to show how he was holding the gun, and the boy responded that it was in his pocket.

“Then he pulled it out and started aiming it at them,” the boy said.

Conkel asked the boy what the Stakers were doing.

“They (the Stakers) kept telling him (Holsinger) to put it down and he wouldn’t, so he shot him,” the boy responded.

“Did you see which guy shot Steve?” Conkel asked.

“The son (Tyler),” The boy said. “They shot five, but they hit him three.”

He said Holsinger’s wife, Jennifer, tried to call the sheriff’s office and a neighbor called, as did Robert Staker.

The boy said he saw Jennifer Holsinger at the time of the shooting.

“She was on the porch and she kept telling Steve to put the gun down,” the boy said.

“Where was Steve?” Conkel asked.

“I couldn’t hardly see him because the truck was in the way. Then I saw him running. That’s when they shot him.”

“He was running towards them with the gun pointed out?” Conkel asked.

The boy responded in the affirmative.

In her deposition, the boy’s mother said of the Stakers, “they knocked, and they knocked, and they knocked” for an-hour-and-a-half. “Bob was hollering through the window for him to come out and give them the mower.”

The mother said she gathered her children and brought them inside, however, one boy, the witness, remained in the yard.

“… when I saw Steve charging out that door.” the mother said.

“How do you mean charging?” Conkel asked.

“Oh my gosh, I’ve never seen him do this, that wasn’t Steve,” the mother said. “He slung open the back door of the house, and swung screen door and ran out those stairs. I didn’t see his gun, and I had the screen door shut and I couldn’t make out the voices. I heard Steve screaming. I knew that was him screaming. It happened so fast. I knew it was going to come out bad. I heard someone three times say, ‘Put your gun down, put your gun down’ three times. My (other child), he saw flashes come off the gun. My (child who witnessed the shooting) was out in the yard, and I was mad that he was out there.”

She said as soon as the shooting was over she heard Jennifer Holsinger screaming for someone to call 911, and she saw Robert Staker on the phone with a county 911 operator.

“I lost it,” the mother said. “I ran to the kid, Tyler (Staker), because I thought, man, he was my daughter’s age. I thought it was him. I asked Tyler what happened. He said, ‘he came running out of his house with a gun,’ and I (the mother) didn’t know if Steve had a gun or not. I knew Steve has guns. But I asked Tyler what happened, and he said, ‘He came running out of the house with a gun pointing it at me, so I kept telling him to put it down,’ and he said he wouldn’t do it, he said, ‘I shot him.’ Tyler started bawling. He was so upset.”

In the prosecutor’s documents was a statement by Jennifer Holsinger in which she said the Stakers pulled onto the driveway and started knocking on the doors and windows. She said a neighbor told Robert and Tyler Staker they were not home, “and Bob told the neighbor they would just wait for Steve to come back.” Jennifer Holsinger told authorities, “the knocking stopped, but later started again and a neighbor texted (Jennifer) saying Steve may want to come out because the guys were going to call the sheriff.”

Jennifer Holsinger stated Steve Holsinger went upstairs and got his gun and went out the door.

According to the statement, Jennifer Holsinger said she begged him not to take the gun, but Steve Holsinger said he was taking the gun because, “Bob and his son were big men.” Jennifer Holsinger stated she could hear them, but couldn’t make out what they were saying. The statement says Jennifer Holsinger told officers she went out onto the porch and could not see if Steve Holsinger had the gun pulled on Tyler Staker because it was dark. She said the only thing she could remember is that her husband said, “You’ve got three seconds to get off the property,” then, she said, she heard shots and her husband hit the ground.

She said she tried to call 911, but could not, so she handed her phone to her neighbor, and she said Robert Staker also called 911. She said Robert and Tyler Staker waited for the deputy to show up. Jennifer Holsinger was asked if Robert Staker had a gun and she said no.

According to the documents in the Prosecutor’s office, both Tyler and Robert Staker were read their Miranda rights and were detained in Sheriff deputies’ cruisers.

Frank Lewis may be reached at 740-353-3101, ext. 232, or at flewis@heartlandpublications.com



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PapaLegba
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October 05, 2012
Regardless of how "Compelling" Kuhn may find this kid's testimony, it doesn't explain how someone can take a gun to another person's home late at night to collect a LAWNMOWER! Not only that, a lawnmower that was paid for, not stolen. It doesn't matter if there are 150 eyewitnesses with "unbiased and compelling" accounts of what happened, you have to convict someone who brings a gun to someones house at night, knocks on their door for an hour and then shoots the person who resides in the house. The key thing is that you don't have to charge them with murder, but you can get them for manslaughter. As a taxpayer in the area I am not sure what we are paying our "elected and appointed" leaders for, if they can't convict someone in this case.
hudu
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October 01, 2012
kuhn should be investigated...
hudu
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October 01, 2012
vote the bums out; the only way a poor person can be heard...
Guest3763432c3
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October 01, 2012
I don't believe this is true either. Something is really fishy here!! I think that Stakers were at fault here - who in their right mind stays at a house for at least two hours and knocks on the doors, windows, and shakes the air conditioner. It is horrible that he was shot for protecting his home. The Stakers whould have never gone there at night. I have heard from several people who have gond to Stakers that they have taken thing to Stakers to be fixed and the item comes up missing - they did not go back and shoot them!

This makes me sick to see how Scioto County is run. I know that when the elections come up in a month, I WILL be SURE not to vote for any of the ones involved in this. I hope that other people THINK before going to Stakers and voting for any officials. Again, this is sickening and scary for our community.
ConcernedTu
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September 30, 2012
I have to say that I DO NOT BELIEVE this testimony. If this was real it would have been reported when the shooting first made the news. No attempt was made to use this information to alleviate the comtroversy of this case, but conveniently this information became available to the Grand Jury. Sure, sure... This is being put out to try to keep the voters from voting against the current power holders.

I cannot believe this child was out that late "playing" on a school night. I also cannot believe the mother ran to Staker and not to Jennifer Holsinger and her dying husband. What kind of people are these witnesses anyway???

The Stakers were trespassing and should have been arrested for that and for the shooting. This is still my belief...
ConcernedTu
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October 03, 2012
Sorry, my bad, this was not a school night so school aged children would be out at all hours of the night...When we hear loud voices in our neighborhood, my children are called into the house. I guess this is not common practice in Scioto County.
TommyB55
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September 30, 2012
Our County Prosecutor is telling his story from watching a video tape interview of the child and other people. I would like to know what is the time frame from when the video interview was done from the time of the shooting. What was said to the child and other people at the scene or maybe what was overhead by them. And most importantly of all, who took the people down to the sheriff department to be interview, especially the child. The department should have made sure all witnesses were seperated from anyone, including family members until their statements are taken. These are some of the questions our County Prosecutor need to answer to show it was an impartical investigation. I have heard the Stakers were allowed to drive themselves to the sheriff department, is that true Mr.County Prosecutor? if so, sounds like the Stakers had time to get their stories together.
thinking-outloud
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September 30, 2012
This case bothers me alot ! First of all, it was a Civil Matter which should have been settled through the court system. Of course Staker's had every right to get their mower returned to them since he (Hosinger) wasn't paying for it. That's an absolut given. But WHY? did they not ask for a Deputy Escort, to go along with them just in case there was a problem? I can tell you why. The Dispatcher would have advised them, that this was a civil matter, not criminal so therefore no escort would have been provided. "Take it through the Court System.".... A sad situation for sure.One man is dead, another one having to live with this memory in his mind forever that he took the life of another person, and 3 little Kids left without a Daddy. And all because of a monetary item that could have been written off as a bad debt in the end. Not defending Holsinger for not returning the item when he was asked to do so. He should have.. But this was handled totally wrong....
JBS
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September 30, 2012
I don 't believe this story at all! And the mother of the Boy runs to the shooter? What about the poor wife and her children. And no way did the boy see what he said in the dark.
ConcernedTu
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September 30, 2012
JBS

I agree 100%...Somebody is covering up the truth...
TommyB55
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September 30, 2012
From a posting I had on the other story, I said this shooting should have been investigated by the State BCI Agents. there are to many connections with the Stakers and our Sheriff Department and you can see that in the way questions were being asked by the Detective.

I wonder who was the person who took that child down to the sheriff department to be questioned and what was said to the child before getting to the sheriff department, there is no way that anyone can tell someone is hit with bulletts three times. I shot on the firing range all the time, from all distances, and we can not tell how many times we hit the target until we walk up to the target, in a closer view. Something really stinks here.
TommyB55
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September 30, 2012
It also seems odd that the boy said they "shot five, but hit him three". the boy is talking about the gun shots. Now if a boy or man or anything is standing a distance from the shooting as in this incident, how could a boy tell if three bullets hit Holsinger, unless he is repeating what was told to him by someone else. There is no way that child can tell that three bullets hit the man, that is very suspicious in it self.
TommyB55
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September 30, 2012
Detective Conkel question to the boy is what is called a "leading question". The boy already had said what he saw and what Holsinger was doing "running" and the boy never said anything about a gun being pointed. Now if Conkel would have said, was the man holding anything or is there any thing else that you saw, more than likely the boy would have said no. But by Conkel's leading the question about having a gun, that is what Conkel wanted and that is why the boy responded in the affirmative, and that sounds like the boy moved his head in a up and down motion. Leading question are not allowed in a court of law and during questioning of witnesses, and that is not my opinon, that is a known fact of law and detectives must stay away from leading questions because witnesses can be easily pursuaded to say in a affirmative motion or answer with a yes, believeing that is how a person in a authoritative role, such as a detective,wants them to answer, and this can be easily done when the person is a child. Seems kind of odd that the boy is saying all this happen but also says he could hardly see Holsinger because of a truck blocking the view.
thinking-outloud
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September 30, 2012
Thinking along the same lines as I'm thinking.
SEEINGITFROMHERE
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November 13, 2012
You are wrong! In grand jury proceedings many different tactics are used that aren't allowed in normal court conduction of business. For example: hearsay is allowed, detectives conducting interviews, judges asking questions and jurors asking questions - this differs from state to state.
robstorm
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September 30, 2012
The testimony that was quoted happened a week ago. Why are we just now seeing it in the Sunday paper?

A couple days ago, the Daily Times said something to the effect of "check out our Sunday edition, where we reveal more".....

There should be no "check back in a couple days for more info"... You're a newspaper, report it when the news is new! (that's how the word "news" was derived).

Reporting it a week later not only makes you look slow but also makes it look like you had to get prior approval from someone before publishing the story. Grow a set PDT! - Robert Storm
hudu
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October 01, 2012
amen!!!!
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