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Hundreds rally for ORV
by Frank Lewis
Mar 27, 2011 | 3241 views | 11 11 comments | 6 6 recommendations | email to a friend | print
A crowd of 500 to 600 people repeatedly stood to their feet and cheered as speaker after speaker voiced their objection to the announced closing of the Ohio River Valley Juvenile Correctional Facility at Franklin Furnace.

Employees, office holders and union officials spoke Saturday afternoon to the crowd made up of ORV employees and community supporters at Green High School in Franklin Furnace.

The main speaker for the day was State Rep. Dr. Terry Johnson, R-89, who has opposed the closing since it was announced by the Ohio Department of Youth Services last week.

“You represent what is best in our society,” Johnson told the crowd. “You are among the best that America has to offer. I appreciate you. And I will go to the wall to fight for you.”

Several speakers took the opportunity to bash Gov. John Kasich, while others attempted to keep political differences out of the mix.

“Politics should have nothing to do with our presence here today,” Johnson said. “As far as I’m concerned, they can take politics and throw it in the river.”

Several speakers, including Eddie Parks, president of the Ohio Civil Service Employees Association, turned the rally into a chance to attack Senate Bill 5.

“Senate Bill 5 is a bad deal,” Parks said. “Senate Bill 5 is going to take away collective bargaining of all state employees ó all state employees. We don’t want to go back to the ‘30s and the ‘40s. We want to move forward. We are middle-class, taxpaying citizens and we’re proud.”

One of the speakers who drew the loudest cheers was Scioto County Democratic Party Chairman Randy Basham when he told the audience, “It is not over yet. Don’t bow your heads.”

Before the rally, Johnson talked about a letter he sent this week to Kasich.

“The essence of it is, I understand that we have an $8 billion deficit that we have to fill, and $8 billion in state terms is not $8 billion in federal terms,” Johnson said. “We can’t print money. We’ve got to do something to make up that $8 billion. And I understand the pain is going to be felt across the state by everybody. But when you come to an issue like this, when you have these other facilities in the state, and this is the best facility, why close our facility? I want to know exactly why.”

In that letter Johnson wrote, “ORV has a leaner staff to detainee ratio than other youth detention facilities scheduled to remain open and a better operational history as well. There has never been a murder, successful suicide attempt, or an escape from ORV. Sadly, this cannot be said of all DYS facilities.”

One of the people attending and speaking who may be closer to the history of the facility was Scioto County Commissioner Skip Riffe.

“The way this really became here ó what makes it personal to me ó is, back in the late ‘80s, then-Gov. Dick Celeste wanted to build several of these in the state,” Riffe said. “So he goes to my father, (House) Speaker Vern Riffe, and talks to him about getting the money appropriated by the legislature. Dad said, ‘that’s fine governor, I’ll do that as long as one is located in Scioto County. So that is really how that facility got here.”

Members of the crowd carried signs reading “Save ORV” and “368 Jobs Lost.”

Johnson’s legislative aide Scott Evans met with the director of the DYS Martha Spohn earlier in the week and briefed Johnson afterward.

“He came away with the knowledge that they are firm in their decision,” Johnson said. “Our job is to get them to be less firm or change their mind.”

Johnson’s mind is probably best expressed in the last line of the letter to Kasich: “I strongly urge you to reconsider this decision and I am available to meet at any time.”
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ACitizen
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March 28, 2011
TTTWY,

Your '08 PDT's citation on Riffe is choice. Riffe does High School Pep Rallies, quality no quantity, nor substance like An Economic growth and Development official should do.

In fact they did not even replace Steve Carter, their grants writer, titled Economic Development Director and assigned that duty to one of the commissioner's Administrative Assistants. That will be good for that person's resume, but that's all.

That's all the county officials are doing building their resumes for the next election, not building their county while they suckle on the Dole, salaries and perks. Oh, and fame in Scioto County.

Anyway, Riffe reminds us of Bob Huff, SOGP, chamber and visitor's bureau guy, who knows what else.

We got all exited to see Bob's presentation on SOGP's eoonomic growth and development accomplishments.

Well the presentation was just on rehab and fascia maintenance on the buildings in Bony Fiddle is it, the West End that many avoid cause it's the West End?

That's like the Mainstreet Portsmouth group is have a session on marketing tomorrow, is it? They don't have a clue if there's anyone out there to market to? Wow. Plop Plop Fiz, fiz.

TTTWY, Are you that corn hole guy Kyle Signs, he has kept all the PDT'S, probably more than they have. Betcha.

tellthetruthwontyou
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March 28, 2011
When a person or a business cant balance its budget, when expenses outnumber income you have to make cuts. Why is it when the State of Ohio trys to cut something its always wrong ? Is the State of Ohio obligated to give anyone in Scioto County a job ?

If you read what the local leaders had to say today at the rally, not one of them gave any reason, why the State of Ohio should have plenty of money to keep this facility open, or gave any information where the State can get the money if they dont have it, gave no advice on how the State can balance their budget.

Riffe has nothing to say except his father is responsible for getting the facility to locate here. Now what possible reason could that be for the State to keep it open ? How does that produce money to keep it open ?

Johnson says you represent the best in America ? Ok, State of Ohio, since we have the best people in America here in Scioto County, now does that convince you to keep it open ?

Parks, President of the Civil Service, instead of telling the State in hard core facts why the State should keep the facility open, rather runs a campaign at the rally on Senate Bill 5. Now are you convinced State of Ohio ? Keep it open because Parks likes Senate Bill 5.

Basham of the Democratic Party, says dont bow your heads, its not over. Very very very convincing, the State will for sure now keep it open because Basham says not to bow your heads. I am sure that really got their attention in Columbus, and now they are going back and reconsidering!

Not one of these so called leaders, brought in books or any calculators or any accountants to prove to the State of Ohio, that they have the money to keep this facility open, to prove to the State they wont save closing it down, no facts, no evidence, no convincing arguments. Thats the kind of local leaders you have in this area. Maybe thats why we have no industry every locating here, because these so called leaders have no clue at all on how the whole process works.

I am sorry people gathering in front of a facility and hollering chants does not work. Telling a crowd that my daddy got the facility here does not work. Telling people you are the best in America does not save jobs. Did any of these people dig into the States budget and show the State of Ohio where they are wrong ?

If this were a privately owned facility like Ford Motor Company, and the company said, "we have to close the doors" we cant balance our budget. The case at that point is closed. But when the State cant pay the bills and closes "their facility -(business)" down, its always wrong in Scioto County. The State closed 5 other Juvenile Facilities down in the past 2 years, is the State of Ohio worse today because of this ? Of course not. It wont be worse when #6 here is closed down.

Why is it always in Scioto County its wrong ? They want to close towers down at the prison in Lucasville, of course thats wrong also.

I dont think anyone in Scioto County need worry about a job, if you go check the 8 30 2008 edition of the Portsmouth Times, Commissioner Reiser stated, "I think in the next five years, we are going to see a reversal of people moving out of the county, to one where people are moving back into the county. With all of the expansion and construction coming to the area, he said there might come a point when the area might run out of its existing labor pool. I think young people can change their attitude from I am not going to be able to get a job in Scioto County to I better get prepared to get a job in Scioto County," Reiser said.

tellthetruthwontyou
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March 27, 2011
Only in Scioto County.

Why is it people dont have this passion about their being no jobs for graduates of all the high schools in this county and city ?

No one marches on the Court House or City Building in protest of these two goverments sitting idle and not creating any jobs ever in this county.

Grabbing a bullhorn and acting like a fool is not a reason for the state to keep a facility.

In fact didnt the Scioto County Commissioners close down their juvenile jail in downtown Portsmouth and end jobs, to try to balance their budget ? Its ok for Scioto County to not recruit any jobs, and close its facility down, but its not ok for the State of Ohio.

Yes, what if the State does keep this facility open, now are you going to push your Scioto County Commissioners to recruit industy, which they have not done ? 1,200 jobs at a new facility in Charleston, West Virginia by Macys Dept. STore Fulfillment, give them a call, they never received any package from your Scioto County Commissioners to locate here. Thank you.
pepprdog
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March 27, 2011
500-600 people are supporters of 300 people losing jobs????????

Pretty weak/sad turnout considering the cosequences to the job losses......!

Citizen 48, those are really rediculous expectations.... but I do support your views that we need to keep doing everything like it's been the last few generations..... NOT!
LookDeeper
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March 27, 2011
Mr Johnson said: "... why close our facility? I want to know exactly why.

Mr Johnson had plenty of time to "talk" to state officials about the closing and fully understand intent. Yet he asks why at this rally ???

And as expected... this event was another chant rally. Thinking in terms of the problem being a party line issue and the only locals that exist live in Scioto County. To Mr Johnsons credit, it appears he was the only one to objectively bring up the states urgency to balance its budget. Other speakers issuing only chanting.

Skipp Riffe publicly disclosed how Scioto County got its youth prison facility. By pure political force: "I'll play along if you throw me a bone".

That summarizes how Scioto County is viewed: expecting rights to entitlements.

Not going to win this unless a credible defense is delivered focusing ONLY on overall business viability.

Shouting down Kasich without winning first a public disclosure from the state is irresponsible to seriously caring about the states "collective" future.

ACitizen
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March 27, 2011
There's that Johnny come lately again, Jails now? Here's Johnny Johnson.

1. Johnson's "your are the best," what is he and Basham and the rest who've been around for decades and gave us Strickland and Kasich? That's why we are where we are from what they have not done, all of them. Freeloaders, white and pink collar welfare.

2. "Not Political" Johnson saids? That shows his ignorance and that he does not know what he's talking about trying to pander to the crowd and public think we are as stupid as they are?

3. People like Eddy Parks too should get their resumes out with SB 5 passing the Tsunami is coming for them, the ax man cometh. These guys are trying to but re-arrange the Deck Chairs. First they came for the Jews and I said nothing, then they came......

4. They all continue to show us they don't know what's going on and coming dowe the pike, grabbing at the straws, etc. they continue nor to work on recruiting businesses and industry like they have not done for decades like the CAO, COAD, SOGP, and all the rest, freeloaders.

5. Basham, another piece of work. Bow your head, Hospice Chaplain Strickland is gone Randy, Hatchet man Kasich here.

6. Riffe continues to rides daddy's wave, purse strings, and builds up that facility. Did you see the sign behind him on WSAZ? It's in deplorable condition, is the rest of the unit like that with our children in it. Is that what Kasich is to throw more good money after bad. Corruption is making good bad.

7. Again, Johnson comes from a failed county with two failed Jails, lot of credibility he's got behind him.

8. Letter to Kasich like Walton, Jr. did to Strickland on Pill Mills and we got no enforcement just $400,000 subsidizing the Hughes counseling center again? More bail out for no production.

9. Another sound bite by Johnson. Was B. B. Leedom there?

SAVE-ORV
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March 27, 2011
I like Johnson. I think he is going to try and help us save our job. I hope he has enough power as a new representative to get this done for this area. I think though if he can't get it done with a man of his own party as governor, then people won't have much use for him. He could be the next Vern Riffe or a one-term wonder. I hope Kasich makes this man look good in our county otherwise the Dems will lock his seat up the next election. I know 368 votes he will get if he keeps us open.
citizen48
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March 27, 2011
If anybody thinks Neihause and Johnson didn't know about this in January, let me know. I have a bridge to sell you at a great price!
RobertNew
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March 27, 2011
According to an article in the Columbus Dispatch these facilities have been closing for years. The article says, "Going back 10 years, DYS had 10 facilities and 1,949 youth inmates. Today, it has five (soon to be four) facilities housing 736 offenders, a 62 percent drop."

So I guess Scioto county can't elect a Democrat or a Republican going forward. Viva la Independent!

Full articles here: http://www.dispatchpolitics.com/live/content/local_news/stories/2011/03/23/copy/state-to-close-4th-juvenile-prison-end-local-program.html?sid=101
citizen48
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March 27, 2011
If the facility closes, it will be 20 years before Scioto County elects another republican. Mark these words.
citizen48
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March 27, 2011
If Johnson is sincere about helping this are, he will sponsor legislation allowing for the recall of an ineffective governor on the wrong track. Kasich has a 30% approval rating and needs to be ousted. Stand Up For Ohio and stand against Kasich!
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