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Police Chief Responds To ‘Corruption’ Comments: Horner Says Mayor Should Back Up Allegations
by Frank Lewis
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Portsmouth Police Chief Charles Horner says it is highly improper to make allegations of corruption if there is no evidence of corruption.

Portsmouth Mayor Jane Murray drew headlines earlier in the week when she said — “This is probably the most corrupt city I have ever witnessed, the most corrupt government. I’m not used to that.”

Now Portsmouth’s top law enforcement officer is saying if there are allegations, there should be an investigation.

“It’s highly improper if you don’t have evidence of corruption to make allegations of corruption,” Horner said, in an exclusive interview with the Portsmouth Daily Times. “And obviously if she (Murray) does have evidence of corruption it needs to be turned over to the proper law enforcement agency.”

Horner said use of the term “corruption” carries legal ramifications.

“People shouldn’t wildly throw out allegations of corruption unless there is evidence,” Horner said. “And if there is evidence, that evidence needs to be brought forward to law enforcement. And that evidence, if it exists, would, in our case, more than likely be sent to the State of Ohio for an investigation.”

Who would handle such an investigation?

“It all depends on, if there was corruption, what the corruption is,” Horner said. “It could be the Inspector General of the State of Ohio; it could be BCI&I (Bureau of Criminal Identification and Investigation); and ultimately the Attorney General would make that determination.”

Horner said use of the word “corruption” infers that the Police Department, Fire Department, Solicitor’s Office, or any such department in the city, is corrupt, and thus sheds a bad light on everybody in city government — “And that’s not good for a community. If there is evidence, the evidence needs to be brought forward and taken to the appropriate authorities for evaluation,” Horner said.

When the Times asked Murray who she was referring to as corrupt, Murray said she was making a reference to — “The vitriolic attitude that pervades this whole country. National and local discourse. It’s the same.”

On Friday, Murray was asked her response to Horner’s call for evidence to back up her claims.

“At the right time I will take the information to the proper authorities,” Murray said.

Frank Lewis may be reached at (740) 353-3101 Ext. 232 or flewis@heartlandpublications.com

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lupusluna
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August 22, 2010
Talk about hitting the nail on the head!!! All of you but one know what the "good ole boys" are and who they are!!! Mayor Murray needs to stay in her job and she has help coming!!! You go girl!!! Keep them at bay!!! Idiots!!
oliviaann
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August 22, 2010
Looks like the CAVE people are afraid of loosing their leader. If the detectives are not doing their job then you will need to take that information to the police department and speak with their supervisor so something could be done. But, you will not because you have nothing you just keep tearing the city down. And, how would you know that evidence shows that someone did do it? The normal process if you would ask someone that actually knows would the police would take the case to the solicitor or prosector and they would make the determination.
diamond_eyes4
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August 22, 2010
To Police Chief Horner: If the city goverment isn't corrupt, then do you mind to explain why your detectives won't do their jobs, or why you won't return calls or meet with scheduled meetings? Or explain why your police department likes to "pass the buck" to someone else instead of handling a situation? Or how about just turning a criminal loose just because he or she says "hey I didn't do it" when the evidence shows they did...that is when you actually go collect the evidence. We are the ones who voted her in office and I think that says alot for the people. We, as citizens, are sick and tired of the so called "Boys club" not doing the jobs they are paid to do! Then when someone starts standing up to you, you want to throw them out, because they aren't playing to your rules or letting you tell them how to do their job. I think that is pretty corrupt if you ask me! YES a full investigation needs to take place in the city government...starting with you, Capt. Thurman, and your detectives, then move on to the City Counsel!!
oliviaann
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August 21, 2010
Jane indicates she will that the information to the proper authorities at the right time - when is the right time? If she has evidence of a crime that is occurring she is required to take it / report it to the police! It is a crime not to do so - look at Failure to Report... Ohio Revised Code Section 2921.22. She has no evidence.. she is trying to make everyone one elso look bad for her incompentance.
P'townobserver
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August 21, 2010
Talk about the pot calling the kettle black. She worked for Baesler.
ramz711
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August 21, 2010
Looks like Honorable Mayor Jane Murray is shaking the "good ol' boys bed, and they are tumbling out! Of course there are those who own everything in Portsmouth that are fearful when some wrong/illegal things being conducted in Portsmouth are "the usual". I'm positive that if an investigation by an outside party would look at what has always been "the usual" for politics in Portsmouth and Scioto County, they would find corruption. But look at all who would "hide" things from the investigators! Just look back at the time Barry Feldman wanted to update Portsmouth by creating an outdoor type mall for the Portsmouth Chillicothe/Gallia St corridor. All the owners of the properties in Portsmouth ridiculed and forced Barry Feldman out. They were threatened that someone else would make money from this instead of their usual controlling profits. Now look, Portsmouth is a dead city. That's why I left that area, and couldn't shop there, as there were no places to shop. There are other cities that have as few citizens as Portsmouth, and they all have Sears, Penny's, etc. But none in Portsmouth, and I wonder why?!!
DaveBarker
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August 21, 2010
I have met many Portsmouth police officers including Chief Horner. In my opinion these are fine upstanding people doing a very difficult job. I have lived in many cities, both large and small.

Our family chose Portsmouth as home in 1998 and feel we have better protection than any of the other cities we have lived in or visited.

Because the current mayor does not like sirens in her neighborhood and she objects to motorcycles, does not mean problems with the police are a part of her problem.

It appears the mayor has the problem.
richie3_7
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August 21, 2010
IF she has evidence of corruption in this city and she is waiting for "the right time to take the information to the proper authorities" does this mean she is with holding evidence and does she condone the corruption? Is she trying to let her "friends" cover their tracks before she makes the "evidence" made known to law agencies....makes a person wonder what her intentions are.....
ACitizen
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August 21, 2010
0. Frank some further questions????

1. Who serves at the pleasure of the Mayor, or supposed to in legal municipalities?

2. This Chief wanted the Mayor's staff to see him personally just to get accident records, get the picture?

3. Yeah have the fox protect the hen house, uh huh.

4. Is the Chief wonderin' what evidence she has and trying to flush it out?

5. Will the Chief sue to do his job?

6. If he's the chief, should he not know?

7. A Chief is a lawyer, knowing what "legal ramifications" are?

8. Columbus will touch nothing here, the City and County Solicitors would see to that. What's that rule 28?

9. Ah, the chief has an idea where corruption could be, that's interesting, no? Did he blow their cover?

10. This Chief did the same in the media, the PDT's coincidentally, on the Traffic Signals with all that fuzzy Traffic Engineering math.

11. Also there was a whole front page on the Lee Scott case that's legal but put into the media, trial by media, Scioto County, SE Ohio style.

12, What's next?

13, Have they planned it yet?

14, What's a RICO?

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